ryunasiege published: You could be arrested. Do you know what to do?
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It's not very common. But it does happen. Occasionally camgirls are arrested and charged with lewdness or obscenity. But isn't what we do legal? Well, one thing to keep in mind is that you can be arrested even if you are not guilty. The government has to prove you are guilty to convict you. But that doesn't mean they cannot cause trouble in your life short of proving you committed a crime.

Real-Life Example: Kimberly Kupps

For example, in 2011, camgirl Kimberly Kupps was arrested in Florida on multiple counts of obscenity, including one felony charge for distribution. Those charges were eventually dropped but not before causing a big disruption in life and business for her and her husband.

Local Laws and Tolerance

Also, as attorney Lawrence Walters describes, "local licensing and permitting laws may govern the production of a live broadcast or modeling session." The tolerance of each community for erotic activities varies. But running afoul of local laws could lead to being investigated, fined, shut down, or even arrested.

Police Tactics: "Moving Her On"

Unfortunately, the legal protections in the justice system only partially protect us. Some arrests are just about pressure. It is possible they will consider it a victory just to make your life miserable enough that it makes you stop camming or seek life somewhere else. This practice of "moving her on" is a centuries-old law enforcement tactic when it comes to sex workers.

The Vagueness of Obscenity Laws

Another problem is that some cops, like Sheriff Grady Judd, who arrested Kimberly Kupps, are moral crusaders. They will abuse their power to make a political point and to be popular with their own circle of churchgoing prudes (some of which are secretly our best customers, I know right?).

Finally, although we have a First Amendment right to make and share porn, that right does not protect so-called obscenity. The way obscenity is defined is both vague and illogical. In practice, it boils down to a subjective opinion. And this means that the authorities might at least try to convince a judge or jury that something you did online was obscene. It sucks, but it is possible.

Preparing for the Worst: Personal Guidelines

Add this all up, and there is at least some risk of a camgirl getting arrested. Any arrest is a serious disruption to life. I treat the risk like I like any other likely emergency: preparation and planning are the best peace of mind. Here are the guidelines I personally use to stay prepared.

Stay Calm and Use Time to Your Advantage

  • First and foremost, I will stay calm. In a stressful situation, we can tend to get tunnel vision and feel the reflexive need to react immediately. When it comes to the justice system, I will remember that it's better to stay calm, consider my actions, and use time to my advantage.

Don't Talk to the Police Voluntarily

  • I won't talk to the police voluntarily under any circumstances. Aside from my name, address, and identification, I will politely but firmly assert my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. And then no matter what happens, I will wait to tell my side of the story only to my own attorney. Some of us won't be able to afford an attorney but we are usually entitled to a public defender when we are arrested. This right is real even if no one reads it out loud like on TV. In any case even if I don't know which specific lawyer is coming to defend me I will still tell the police that I will not talk to them until I have been advised by my lawyer.

Be Polite and Respectful

  • Even though I will assert my rights, I will always be polite and respectful. Most police are simply doing a job the best way they know how, even when they're or their superiors are wrong. I definitely don't think there is anything to be gained by being rude, snarky, or threatening. If anything, it will just make them find ways to be less pleasant or even retaliate.

Never Consent to Searches

  • I will never consent to any searches no matter what. The police will always want my consent to conduct their searches even if they don't believe they need it. Even if they believe they have a solid reason to search me, my home, or my car, etc., police will still often be very persistent about asking if they can search. I believe they do this because probable cause or the affidavit sworn to support a warrant can be challenged later on. But your own consent is very hard to take back.

Document Everything

  • I will concentrate on remembering details of what happens. If not prevented, I will take notes or record with my phone. Details to look for are badge numbers, names, license plate numbers, and police car numbers. If I'm not able to take notes at the time, I will write down as much as I remember as soon as possible. Information is power, and these details can help me or my lawyer track down witnesses and reconstruct events later on. It also gives me something to concentrate on in staying calm.

Expect Dishonesty

  • I will remember that there is such a thing as a dishonest cop. None of the cops, no matter how friendly, are my friends. There is no requirement that they be honest with me. I will expect them to lie to me to get me to incriminate myself, give up my rights, or put me at a disadvantage.

Conclusion

Being arrested is a potentially dangerous situation. So I will stay alert to the dangers but remain calm. I won't resist or do anything to provoke violence or abuse. If I am abused, I still will not resist. Sadly and scarily, police abuse of power is something that can only be dealt with afterward. But I would document any injuries as soon as I was able.

So, that above is my personal safety plan in case I am stopped by the police or arrested. Remember this is just my own example of advanced planning and is not legal advice for you. You might have additional considerations that don't apply to me. One example could be a different immigration status. You should do your own research, become familiar with your rights, and think ahead about how you might handle it. This article has been an example of what can be gained by having a prepared mindset. If you need specific legal advice, you should talk to a lawyer.

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Ugh, I did proofread but missed a few typos. Sorry about that. I won't nit pick for most of them but I do want to correct this one because I want it to be clear:

I definitely don't think there is anything to be gained by being rude, snarky or threatening.


Thank you for reading. I will proofread more carefully next time. I hope the tips are useful.
Ugh, I did proofread but missed a few typos. Sorry about that. I won't nit pick for most of them but I do want to correct this one because I want it to be clear:

I definitely don't think there is anything to be gained by being rude, snarky or threatening.


Thank you for reading. I will proofread more carefully next time. I hope the tips are useful.
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upallnight22
your a boss.. thanks for the info!
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Renoir
Kudos for Serious Valuable Information! Totally useful, and I for one appreciate your thoughtfulness to put all of this together for WeCamgirls!

Renoir* Smiley (K)
I think that this is great general advice when dealing with law enforcement. I would add that a camgirl read should not engage in other illegal activities... Especially not on screen!

Thank you for the thorough writeup! Smiley (cool)
@Opehelia That is a very good point! You never know who else may be monitoring.
thanks for the read! Don't care about proofreading too much, it's not a newspaper
daria_irrate wrote on 9 September 2015 - 10:30:
thanks for the read! Don't care about proofreading too much, it's not a newspaper


True that! Smiley :D Still whether it's my farm, camming or info passed along I always care about the quality of my work. I can accept that there will be little mistakes here and there sometimes a lot. But when I accidentally say the opposite of what I mean then it's worth a moment or two to correct it. Smiley :)

Thanks for checking it out and for your comment Smiley (flower) xoxo.
I've corrected it for you.
Thank you @Tristan xoxo!
Great read! I would add something about drugs......seems when their case on obscenity is weak, they will look for minute amts of illegal substances. Considered a cheap pinch.....but often used....

So much depends on the jurisdiction, Good to know the mores of the community. Smiley :O
Great info, thank you.
Thank you for writing this. Unfortunately this is an issue that isn't discussed enough in our line of work. Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance!
Thanks for the great info.
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In the UK no one has been arrested although potentially there are laws that could be implemented . I would just chill , having a law masters is a real tool in my bag lol
I'm actually moving out of the county because the sheriff here is known throughout the US for going after cam girls and anything dealing with porn
Thank you for the article! Would love to do one for Asian countries since they're against sex workers here.
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in my case Hands up don't shoot
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Kstar
so if i tried to post on backpage in the states that i'm doing cam shows is there any areas i should avoid posting, cause id rather not get arrested?
i'm from canada if that matters at all & i am 22 years old so that wont be an issue at all.
my clients here just dont really want to pay the american currency rate for the cam sites but i'm pretty much trying to get all i can get.
depends on the jurisdiction cuz in my country there is no such thing
Hello: yes that can, in USA, i'm happy that i live and work in Netherland where all is legaal (except
; of course pedophilia, and violence without consent)
, not restriction if it is consensual sex between two adults, no restrictions on golden showers and other practices such as the new UK law, (not allowed water sportsSmiley :X ), so it all depends on the laws of the place where you reside. I know the situation well because when i was working from Spain for a camera in USA I could do for example golden shower .... something forbidden for the USA residents. Normally the webcam sites give to you the regels that you must follow, read goed and if you accept follow it, like this you don't must have legal problems. I hope Smiley (A)
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I don't think my neighbors have a right to know what I'm doing in my house.
In Colombia you can be arrested if you work at home and you live with children, there is not way to prove children are not involved.
well..this freaked me out..anyone know of a link that gives each states view on the subject ?
Well I hope the same for Canada. It never even occurred to me. Now I’m going to look how this would be if I were arrested in Canada.
Well I hope the same for Canada. It never even occurred to me. Now I’m going to look how this would be if I were arrested in Canada.
Wow, I didn't know this. Thank you for the info.

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